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Affirmative Action [Jan. 25th, 2008|12:31 am]
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I changed someone's mind tonight. There was a post in thequestionclub asking for people to post something they believe in that most of the other people in the community would disagree with. Someone posted they didn't think affirmative action for university admissions was a good thing. I posted why I disagreed, and someone said that they were going to agree that affirmative action was BS, but reading my reply helped them see that it wasn't. That makes me feel good.  Here's what I wrote that helped them rethink their position:

I disagree. When I was a kid, back in the '60's, the schools for black students were really awful. They had no funding, inexperienced teachers and terrible facilities. Schools for white children had much better everything. And this was in "liberal" Connecticut. It was no surprise that the children who came out of these miserably deficient schools had an inferior education.

Then affirmative action came along. All of a sudden kids from those schools were going to be affecting the academic performance at many colleges and universities and government entities and many corporations were going to have to hire those kids. So, after some whining and waffling about funding and such, a bit more money started flowing to the awful schools. Colleges and universities started sending students to help out at the schools and corporations started giving grants for equipment. While the inferior schools didn't transform into Harvard over night, they did improve tremendously. And wonderfully, kids who would have had no chance in the old system simply because of the color of their skin, got a chance at a real education.

It wasn't a sudden burst of altruism that brought on the change, it was pure self interest. The colleges and universities realized that without good academic grounding the kids from those schools would bring down their graduation rates. And government agencies and corporations realized that if they were going to be hiring those kids, it probably would be better if the kids had a real education. So the kids got an education and went to college and the result was a competent more diversified workforce.

The number Affirmative Action people at any single school or place of employment is quite small. And the people "replaced" by AA wouldn't have been any better academically or as employees. People with good academic or employment records are not the ones affected by affirmative action quotas. Anyone threatened by affirmative action quotas just needs to work hard enough to get out of the "low performing" group and they won't have to worry about being replaced.

Affirmative action has made schools and work places better for everyone by making a defective and highly biased system a little less biased. It's given a chance to people who before AA, would have had no hope no matter how smart they were. Speaking as someone who saw what things were like before AA, I'm pleased with the results.

[User Picture]From: curculio
2008-01-25 07:49 pm (UTC)

Excellent post

I don't think I've every changed anyone's mind about anything except that Firefly is a great show, oh, wait, that wasn't me, that was you! Oops.

Great writing. If I hadn't trusted AA to be such a good deal for social change I would now.
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[User Picture]From: ndozo
2008-01-26 01:25 am (UTC)
That's a neatly constructed argument. Good job. I'm going to use that when I have those arguments.
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[User Picture]From: quitereasonable
2008-01-29 06:32 pm (UTC)
I read your reply to the question on police car sirens and lights and wondered who would know that. This has to be entry I have read from randomly peeking in someone's journal. Thank you. I'm adding you to hopefully be further subjected to such well thought out posts.
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[User Picture]From: quitereasonable
2008-01-29 06:33 pm (UTC)
This has to be the best entry...
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[User Picture]From: cdozo
2008-01-29 09:21 pm (UTC)
Welcome to my journal. Don't hesitate to join in making comments to my posts.

I knew what to Google because I used to be a firefighter and I helped design a rescue truck.
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